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  1. power123

    power123 Porn Star

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    I could never understand why there was ever a tax advantage for married people. Never could understand how the govt. would give people deductions for kids.
    These are the people who use up more of the tax money than single childless people. Why shouldn't they pay more instead of less.
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  2. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    More voters are married than unmarried. Most married people have or want to have children. Many unmarried people want to be married.
     
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  3. power123

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    In other words, just another way of buying votes.
     
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  4. GemmaSwinger101

    GemmaSwinger101 Porn Star Banned!

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    Most politicians are married and thieves.
     
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  5. power123

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    Two more good points.
     
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  6. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    Single adults in the US outnumber the married couples 4.4 to 2.8.
     
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  7. Distant Lover

    Distant Lover Master of Facts

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    Being elected in under a democratic government requires one to buy votes. One convinces a majority of the voters that they will be better off if one wins.
     
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  8. tenguy

    tenguy Reasoned voice of XNXX

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    This is only true when it applies to the takers, the givers will differ with you.
     
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  9. GemmaSwinger101

    GemmaSwinger101 Porn Star Banned!

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  10. Muke Hunt Hz

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    And "in the mind of many" a black or jewish man is seen as an animal. Does the number of those who think that way mean they have a valid point? I think not.
     
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  11. M4MPetCock

    M4MPetCock Porn Star Banned!

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    Well, if a country wants to be more than a flash in the pan, it needs a sufficient amount of population growth. No doubt, kids cost real money growing up. So, in a way of "paying it forward", the government is lessening the burden of contributing to that growth, with the intent that those kids will become productive citizens, who then make their own contributions and so on. Part of the social contract. And the allowance is really a pittance compared to the overall cost.

    As far as people using up more of the tax money than childless couples, you must also consider the opposite, that the childless couple is not contributing to the population, and if people don't have kids, how many more years are left till deaths exceed births? (Then think of fewer people in the same communities continuing to marry. (Think "gene pool".)



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    Births are falling in China, Japan, the United States, Germany, Italy and nearly all other European countries. Studies have shown that births drop when unemployment rises, such as during the Great Depression of the 1930s. Birth rates have fallen the most in some regions that were hardest hit by the financial crisis.

    In the United States, three-quarters of people surveyed by Gallup last year said the main reason couples weren't having more children was a lack of money or fear of the economy.

    The trend emerges as a key gauge of future economic health—the growth in the pool of potential workers, ages 20-64—is signaling trouble ahead. This labor pool had expanded for decades, thanks to the vast generation of baby boomers. Now the boomers are retiring, and there are barely enough new workers to replace them, let alone add to their numbers.

    Growth in the working-age population has halted in developed countries overall. Even in France and the United Kingdom, with relatively healthy birth rates, growth in the labor pool has slowed dramatically. In Japan, Germany and Italy, the labor pool is shrinking.

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    And while gay couples tend to be childless, thus not pulling their weight for population growth, one thing to consider. You will rarely find a gay person on welfare, just as you are unlikely to see a "stay at home" spouse. Why? We like money. We like to earn it. We like to spend it. Thus, the overwhelming majority of gay couples will be double-income, and usually with above-average incomes. We have more disposable income to add to the economy. And because we know we come from you (our parents are hetero), we have no problem with the government helping working-class families (not generational-welfare types) , in the same way our parents' were helped with us and our siblings. And just because we won't have children in the school system doesn't mean we think educating children isn't our shared responsibility. We might have siblings in the same city, with their kids attending the same school system as your kids. (well, for me, more like my grand-niece and grand-nephew as the nieces and nephews are all in their 30's). And one more thing to think about. The marriage-penalty (married two-income families usually pay more than if they weren't married, and filed singly.) And we have no problem paying that little bit extra as well.
     
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  12. ridgerunner

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    for the most part every gay person i have ever known was employed and well paid
    there were a few that were transgender that were poor and getting assistance but they are not gay
    but why do parents get a child tax credit? i mean we opt to have a kid or 5
    that is a choice that people make and a responsibility that they are willing to take on
    but in reality we dont need for people here to keep shitting out kids because we already dont produce enough food, housing, jobs, and educations
    hell as a nation that is supposed to be a global leader we cannot even get an 80% highschool graduation rate
     
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  13. anon_de_plume

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    And I bet most homosexual couples who want to get married are actually going for equal treatment of benefits as given by employers... Not religious equality...
     
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  14. anon_de_plume

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    Which other form of government allows its citizens to vote?
     
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  15. deviousdave

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    Is that worse than striving to create a world where nobody argues, disagrees, or is allowed to offend anyone? A world where no one has an original idea? A place free from critical thought? A place where everyone has equal wealth regardless of the scarcity of their skills or their usefulness to society?
     
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  16. deviousdave

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    Should heterosexual couples that have no interest in producing offspring (or are unable to reproduce) be allowed to marry ?
     
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  17. power123

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    You started out talking foolish. I didn't really need to read all you posted.
    You are very wrong if you think people are going to stop fucking if their off springs are not counted as a deduction. If any actually would we do not need that type of people multiplying.

    If you want a larger population just stand back and watch Plenty of people are crossing our border right now.

    The people who do not have kids are supporting those who think they need some reward for fucking.
     
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  18. osakisbl

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    Arguments about homosexuals

    There is no reason for any person to be denied equal status under the law. To determine a persons "worth" by defining he or she as an_______________is absurd.

    The constitution is a single document that does several things. It states the manner in which the Federal Government is constructed, what powers and authorities it will be granted. NOT HAVE, rather granted by the people. How the several states will interact with each other, and how the different states will settle disputes. Further it separates the powers and duties of the Federal Government from those of the states. It sets forth how it can be amended as the need should arise The first ten Amendments are referred to as the Bill of Rights. These Rights are not a thing to be earned, nor are they granted by any form of government. They are inalienable. The Bill of Rights are GUARRENTES to Americans that protects them from an overbearing government. Through out the years since the Constitution was ratified, Many different "meanings" have been read in to the document. Some people say that the document is out of date, some even say that it should be completely rewritten and updated. If any thing should be done to the Constitution, it is that the entire government and all of its employees ought to have to read every word of it, and then be tested on their knowledge of it This is what is required of any person born out side of the United States of America in order to become a citizen.
     
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  19. M4MPetCock

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    Well, there's also the "being allowed in the same room where your "would-be spouse" of decades to maybe hold their hand as they lay dying of cancer, but since you're not the spouse, the family that disowned them decades ago, insists the hospital bar you from. And the hospital has no choice because it's the law. Oh, and the house you two purchased, fixed up, and have occupied as your family home? Not only does it not automatically their half transfer to you upon their death, the fact that you both had wills drawn up stating that as your intention could go right out the window. They can force the sale, so sure, you get half the proceeds, but "fair share"?

    Or how about for simply being able to refer to someone as your spouse...because that's what they are. As opposed to really being your "life partner" or whatever designation because you're not in one of the states that recognizes your marriage from another state (and won't grant you a license for in the state you live in.)
     
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  20. ridgerunner

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    let no man put asunder that which the lord has done
    i do remember that form when i went to bible school
    it was shit then and is shit now
    laws apply equal to all without regard to race, religion, sex, or income
    you dont like the laws get the fuck out
    your rights do not trump their rights
     
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